Posted: 7:48 am Wednesday, July 2nd, 2014

For the Hawks, Luol Deng would be an upgrade 

By Mark Bradley



Luol Deng and Kyle Korver: Once and future teammates? (Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

Luol Deng and Kyle Korver: Once and future teammates? (Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)

Esteemed colleague Chris Vivlamore has identified Luol Deng, once of Chicago and lately of Cleveland, as the Atlanta Hawks’ top target, realistically speaking, in free agency. (The Hawks will try to woo LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony, but neither pursuit would seem realistic.) What would landing Deng do for the local franchise?

It would give them a better No. 1 small forward than DeMarre Carroll, who shouldn’t be starting for an upper-level NBA club, and would make their first five — Al Horford, Paul Millsap, Deng, Kyle Korver and Jeff Teague — one of the league’s 10 best. Deng is a good defender and a proven scorer. He has twice been an All-Star.

He’s also 29, having spent 10 seasons as a pro and logging more than 26,000 minutes (counting playoffs). He was the No. 2 option in Chicago during Derrick Rose’s rise to MVP status — Korver was a sub on those teams — but last winter the Bulls, who would finish as the East’s No. 4 seed even without Rose, shipped Deng to Cleveland.

His agent told USA Today’s Sam Amick that Deng wouldn’t be opposed to returning to Chicago if the Bulls can’t sign Anthony — they’re considered one of the favorites for Carmelo’s services — and Deng isn’t without other options. According to ESPN’s Chris Broussard, he won’t come cheap.

By trading Lou Williams to Toronto for John Salmons, whom they plan to waive July 10, the Hawks will be $15 million under the salary cap. That’s not enough to offer a maximum contract to LeBron or Carmelo, though more money could be cleared. But $15 million is too much to pay for Deng, especially when we consider that the Hawks signed Paul Millsap, the best free-agent buy of last summer, for $19 million over two seasons.

The Hawks are also believed to be interested in Greg Monroe, the Detroit forward/center, and Lakers forward Pau Gasol. (This according to Marc Stein and Ramona Shelburne of ESPN.)

But $15 million wouldn’t be enough to land both Deng and Monroe/Gasol, and it’s unclear where either of the latter two would play. As noted, the Hawks have Horford and Millsap at the 5 and 4 spots. The bigger need is for a wing, which is why this correspondent wasn’t overly thrilled with the Hawks’ drafting of power forward Adreian Payne in Round 1.

Deng is more what the Hawks lack, and he’s a good player who wouldn’t mess up what they’re trying to do. (As opposed, say, to Indiana’s Lance Stephenson, who’s more gifted and who’s also available but who might wreak internal havoc. Though I must admit Stephenson is intriguing, if only on a conceptual level.)

We’ll more in the next 10 days, but if the past two summers have taught us anything it’s that Hawks general manager Danny Ferry will do something major, if not quite huge, and something smart. That’s not a bad baseline to have set.

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49 comments
tyger
tyger

Why Bargnarni?


http://youtu.be/jzAanUw7rt8

Former #1 - true 7ft center...
Allows Horford to PF...
Highly skilled 5 tool BIG...

Wouldn't be first high pick...
Not to live up to hype...
BIGS often late bloomers...

If Deng signs, Millsap redundant...
Horford, Payne, Brand, Scott, Antic, Millsap all PF???
None 7fters...or true centers...

Budz coaches up Bargnani...
Euro-style system better fit...
Hawks get former #1 pick - good PR...
Trade only way ATL gets #1 player...
Expiring k, Hawks get $12M cap space...

Calderon even swap for Salmon...
True PG, rather than speed guard... 
Better shooter, Hoops IQ...
NYK need cap space - resigning Melo...

Millsap/Carroll expiring for Bargani expiring...
NYK gets cap space, Hawks get true BIG...
Preserves cap space and roster spots...
Carroll expendable with Deng/Sefalosha...

Teague for Deng in sign+trade...
Cavs get something useful for Deng...
$24M/3yr...after down year...not bad

Bargnani, Horford, Deng, Payne, Brand nice frontline...

cspecial
cspecial

the league won"t let LeBron james come to Atlanta for political reasons. luol deng would be a great fit along with greg Monroe. leave carmello "mr selfish loser" anthony where he is. james would be what the doctor ordered if the league would let him sign with Atlanta.look for him to end up in los angeles

Sirrags
Sirrags

The hawks are under " THE CURSE OF DOMINIQUE". That trade showed a lack of RESPECT and LOYALTY.. This is why top players will live in Atlanta, but will not play for Atlanta.

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

STARTERS


TEAGUE, PARSON, MILLSAP, HORFORD, BLATCHE


BENCH


MACK, KORVER, CARROLL, SCOTT, PAYNE


RESERVE


JENKINS, SCHRODER, ANTIC


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

CHANDLER PARSONS 4 YEAR 40MILL


ANDRAY BLATCHE 4 YEAR 20MILL


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

Hawks have find a true center so Horford could finally move to his natural position, Horford could have a longer NBA career with him being able to be more of a free lancer on the court instead of banging against guys who are 2 or 3 inches taller than him every night, when the Blazers sign Lopez, Marcus Aldridge was finally able to take his game to next level, 6 years enough time to do the right thing and find a center.


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

syrupmaker
syrupmaker

Bradley, what makes you think Korver is a starter. Yeah he is a great shooter, but he is also a defensive liability. Also, he got worn down playing all those starter minutes. Carroll yes is a good bench player that can start in a pinch. They should have drafted a young athletic wing player last week. Could have traded up and got Glenn Robinson III in the second. This team needs a jolt of athleticism.

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

Somebody please tell me how is Deng worth more than 10mill ?


He is not even a top 10 SF in the NBA DF don't over price your self trying to get him.


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

d12andsmooth
d12andsmooth

if we are giving over $10 million + to anyone I would rather give it to chandler parsons...period

JAS0N
JAS0N

"...not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven..."


-Lebron James

MikeS777
MikeS777

Actually with Deng and Horford, I could see them getting to the conference finals, but not beating Miami.  Of course that assumes they don't meet Miami before the conference finals.  Also, if Rose ever gets healthy, they wouldn't beat Chicago either.  That team is a tough out without him.  With him, they are a legit finals contender.

I could see the Hawks being anywhere from 2-4 seed with Deng and Horford in the East anyway.

MikeS777
MikeS777

He would be, but I don't think it would get them past the second round.  The Hawks need a legit superstar or two.  San Antonio has 3 of them, and Leonard is probably a 4th.  So just like the Hawks, they got major contributions out of lesser name players, but that was in addition to the superstar talent.

The Hawks haven't had any real superstar talent since Dominique left.  That's why they keep topping out in the second round.  By then you run into teams that do have it, and they just can't hang with them.  Indiana is not legit.  With Deng and Horford the Hawks beat those guys.  But then Hibbert, West, and George just aren't in the same class as Lebron, Wade, Durant, Westbrook, Duncan, Parker, Paul, etc.  They are great players, but they aren't in the superstar class.  Miami is the only team in the east that has em.  The West is loaded.

I just don't want to see the Hawks cap themselves out on guys that probably won't take them further than the second round again.

cspecial
cspecial

I agree, the addition of greg Monroe and luol deng would make the hawks a title contender.hope they don"t act foolish and let jeff Teague go.hes a star and a proven winner.leave Carmelo Anthony right where he is.hes a selfish loser.

seminoleking
seminoleking

eeeh. hawks will CONTINUE to play as a midlevel team because ownership and the nba knows the sheep will continue to buy enough tickets to keep this franchise afloat. if they REALLY was serious, they would clear space to woo a big time superstar to atlanta. the ONLY reason they gave joe johnson that max contract is because the hawks were for sale and their ownership wanted to make them attractive to new buyers. as SOON as the sale deal fell thru, the FIRST thing ferry did, under orders from ownership, to get rid of salary. ferry built ZERO in cleveland and gonna do just enough here to fool everybody. same ole same ole.....

all_i_am_saying_is
all_i_am_saying_is

Hawks need a Center so Al can play his preferred PF position.  Every time I read an AJ/C journalist tout Al as a 5 or Center it reminds me how dense they are.  Al is on record as stating he prefers to play the 4 (or Power Forward).  Geez, how many more games, season, and years have to go by before we get a 5?

LostGoat
LostGoat

with all the stiffs on the hawks roster, taking any castoff from a good team would be an "upgrade."

BSNBC
BSNBC

Porky Pig would be a upgrade!

VinceVanGo
VinceVanGo

The Hawks have $15 million in cap space. I believe they will give Deng $11-12  million, Elton Brand $3-4 million, & let Mike Scott  walk if he  get a decent offer. The 2nd round pick shooting guard from Pittsburgh(Patterson)  makes the roster, & Tavares is stashed in Europe for this year. The Hawks roster has 3 point guards(Teague, Mack, Schroeder), 3 shooting guards(Korver, Jenkins, Patterson), 2 wings(Deng, Carrol), 3 power forwards(Milsap, Payne, Muscala), & 3 centers(Horford, Antic, Brand).  That's 14 players & Ferry likes to keep the 15th spot open. Not a bad team, might make it through the 2nd round of the playoffs if everybody stays healthy.

JChikara
JChikara

Realistically, what the Hawks are doing won't get them out of the second round, because when push comes to shove, they don't have that "get on my back" type of player that has the ability to step their game up against superior talent in the playoffs. Even with Deng, can you see them getting past Chicago or Miami? The Hawks can only get a superstar to come here if they make a godfather offer in a trade to a team with a disgruntled star, and even then they'd have to resign him, similar to what Houston did to get Harden. 


Once Atlanta strikes on on Deng (and they will), if I'm Danny Ferry, I call Minnesota and offer everyone not named Horford or Teague and throw them in a trade for Kevin Love. Love, Horford and Teague in a weak East can be something to build around for several years and with Coach Bud's system, it would bring the right role players that is necessary for building a championship roster.

twentysixpointtwo
twentysixpointtwo

I'm still wondering about seemingly giving way the young seven footer we drafted # 16 last yr.  I can only assume the Hawks are already thinking he was a high selection mistake.  Anyone?? Thks

maconexpress
maconexpress

Monroe  40% FT no thank you. Not sure about Deng. Why would the bulls trade him to Cleveland in the first place? Be careful DF. 

labo2000
labo2000

Any moves toward Monroe or Gasol are indications that Millsap, who has a sweet expiring deal this year and who will most assuredly be paid by someone next year, is squarely on the trading block.  They could definitely be looking to move him for a swingman.


Meanwhile, Monroe would provide an offensive player who has an actual low post presence that the Hawks haven't had since Kevin Willis.  He'd make a great high-lo tandem with Horford. 

slydawg
slydawg

Is Ferry the next Domitroff or something?

The sports executives in this town need an imagination and a pair of balls. No one is going to the arena to see an "improved" team. No one is going to see a team compete for the 4th seed every year. Deng is not taking this Hawks team to the next level. Period. This town needs a star, a transcendent player who will own this city. Get Lebron. The pieces he wants around him are already in place. A TEAM, not a bunch of ego driven max pay punks. Find a way to max Lebron out. Don't pay Deng $15-18 mil. It would be stupid. The Hawks need to tank the season if this is the best they can do.

CowbellHell
CowbellHell

We ain't trading Al Horford dude, better hope for Deng which would be a huge upgrade at the 3 for us.

WaltBBall
WaltBBall

DF keeps things so close to the belt until it's hard to speculate.  I am hoping for a sign and trade for C. Parsons along with a draft pick (2nd) for big Al and he's my boy but it's a business.  Houston needs what Al can deliver and the HAWKS could definitely use Parsons who is a serious wing player, all speculation on my part.

honest_abe
honest_abe

nobody wants to come to atlanta.  we haven't lured a major free agent since joe johnson.  joe who?  ugh.  this city has been cursed since sherman burned it to the ground.

devounknown1000
devounknown1000

@Sirrags  Why Horford  have not call Chandler Parson ?


Players are recruiting but Hawks Players are sitting back SMH


GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



TimeStop
TimeStop

@MikeS777  I tend to agree that the Spurs have superstars.  The Miami Heat with superstars James, Bosh, Wade, etc. were soundly beaten by the Spurs. We all know that being selected as an All-Star is not always indicative of talent but rather the television market.  Regardless of age, Duncan, Parker, (I'm not real keen on Ginobilli) are legitimate superstars. Simple logic, at least to me, says that the playoffs bring out superstar status.  The Miami Heat players were all crying for their mamas after the series with the Spurs.

WPL
WPL

@MikeS777 I'm trying to figure out who is spurs superstar players, Duncan 38-39 yrs old,

Ginobili 36, Parker 32, non made the allstar team this year. But they are future hall of famers. But neither of them are currently superstars in the nba

maconexpress
maconexpress

@cspecial  Out of 9 seasons, Deng played a full season only twice and Monroe is one of the worse free throw shooters(41%) in the league. I just hope DF makes the right decision.

AnsweredTHIS
AnsweredTHIS

@VinceVanGo


IMHO if you give Deng $11-$12 million you might as well kept Joe Johnson on this team.  This would be a monumental mistake! He wont play more than 50 to 65 games and he is not the player to put the Hawks any where closer than they were this year.  AND if you let Mike Scott walk...another HUGE mistake.  Those would be horrible moves in my opinion!

seminoleking
seminoleking

@JChikara finally, somebody besides me stating the OBVIOUS. the hawks ownership is what it is, just trying to get by. as long as the sheep keep buying season tickets, the hawks have demontrated, even under ted turner, that they will do just enough to keep the franchise afloat. if they was serious, they woulnt have got millsap and carroll this past off season, nor korver, and kept all that cap space open to make SERIOUS offers to either howard last year, or lebron, anthony, etc. this year. 

we have seen this same program for over 40 years in atlanta. when dominique wilkins was traded away back in the 90s, that was the LAST time they had a serious chance at the nba title.......

LMO
LMO

@twentysixpointtwo seems like we could have given up Lou for the 34 year old in a straight up swap.  Baffling that we would draft a guy, let him develop for a year, and then trade him.  We NEED size and athleticism, yet quickly gave that up for someone we are going to waive????  Didnt make sense to me either..

LMO
LMO

@slydawg If Ferry didnt do this for 6-7 years he had LBJ...why do you think he would do it here?  No big time FA's want to come here, yet we keep getting rid of young draft picks... Should have TANKED the season last year and start getting some young future stars instead of playing well enough to get bounced in the playoffs and miss the lottery.  Didnt need a new GM or HC to create this SAME movie... Been there, done that.  Could have kept Drew and Crew for the same results.

LMO
LMO

@WaltBBall 5 years ago yes, 2014-2015 season... I dont think so.  heck let's bring Nique back if that's the logic.

noitamroftuo
noitamroftuo

@honest_abe who cares.  what major free agent have the spurs lured?  it doesnt matter who you consider "major"

TeheranHeight
TeheranHeight

I was wondering the samething. I think people get superstar mixed up with popular. There really isn't many left in the league.

seminoleking
seminoleking

@LMO @twentysixpointtwo why is it san antonio can develop low round picks, but the hawks trade away or just plain cut 1st round draft choices.........lol

LMO
LMO

@JerryMcCrary @honest_abe Bingo!! sure did...and jumped into a bidding war with themselves for which Joe was like... Highest player in the league... SURE!!

LMO
LMO

@noitamroftuo @honest_abe spurs tanked it one season and landed future HOF Tim Duncan with 1st pick, and built around him.  hard to be GREAT with mediocre players.  We will make playoffs, get bounced in 1st or 2nd round, and stay out of the lottery and no FA will come here.  More of the same... Wash, Rinse & Repeat

sunnychad
sunnychad

@noitamroftuo @honest_abe The difference between the Spurs and Hawks is simple: the Spurs drafted Tim Duncan and Tony Parker.  The Hawks have not drafted anyone of that caliber. Period.

dmparis
dmparis

@seminoleking @LMO @twentysixpointtwo I would like Danny Ferry to explain why they gave up on Nugera (last years first rounder) so quickly. Knee problems...attitude...poor development? Please explain. If it was a miss in the first round own up to it.

DawgnIT
DawgnIT

@sunnychad @noitamroftuo @honest_abe You left off David Robinson.  The Spurs were able to hand off the team from one HOFer to another (potentially).  That's 3 players better than anyone the Hawks have drafted in almost 3 decades.