Posted: 7:37 am Thursday, May 15th, 2014

Tech won’t let Carter go to UGA, and I understand 

By Mark Bradley

Robert Carter Jr.: He's a transfer, not a free agent. (Johnny Crawford/AJC)

Robert Carter Jr.: He’s a transfer, not a free agent. (Johnny Crawford/AJC)

As noted by esteemed colleague Chip Towers, Georgia isn’t pleased that Georgia Tech refused to let the Bulldogs contact Robert Carter Jr., who considered signing with the Bulldogs — he’s from Thomasville by way of Shiloh in Snellville — before landing at Tech. As noted by esteemed colleague Ken Sugiura, the Jackets are unapologetic in their refusal, invoking the industry standard not to allow a transfer to alight with a school in the same conference or with a team his old school plays on a regular basis.

Without trying to cast myself as arbitrator, I have to say I understand Georgia’s frustration — the Bulldogs could use a good big man — but am swayed by Tech’s position. It’s bad enough when a guy leaves your program; it’s worse when you have to face him. I know why the Jackets, who play Georgia every season, would want to avoid that. (For one thing, Tech’s 3-0 record against the Bulldogs is one of the few real achievements under Brian Gregory.)

Georgia athletic director Greg McGarity has said the Bulldogs put no restrictions on their transfers, claiming that they have the student-athlete’s best interests at heart. That’s laudable. That’s their prerogative. But Tech is justified in its stance. Even if transfers have reached a record high in college basketball, transferring isn’t quite the same as becoming a free agent.

Luke Hancock, MVP of the 2013 Final Four, went from George Mason to Louisville — to a non-rival in a different league. Kevin Ware has gone from Louisville to Georgia State, which has essentially become an arrival gate for transfers. Ryan Harrow, who played first at North Carolina State of the ACC, bounced to Kentucky of the SEC and is now at Georgia State, lately of the Sun Belt. Jerrone Maymon left Marquette for Tennessee; Trae Golden left Tennessee for Georgia Tech.

Sometimes strange things happen. Jordan Sibert, who was Aaron Craft’s roommate at Ohio State, left the Buckeyes and landed at Dayton, which is just down I-75 from Columbus but which Ohio State has refused to schedule. Lo and behold, the two were paired in their opening NCAA tournament game, and Sibert’s Flyers upset Craft’s Buckeyes and went on to the Elite Eight. (Dayton’s winning basket against Ohio State was made by Vee Sanford, who transferred from Georgetown.)

Surely Georgia would have gnashed its canine teeth if LSU, working behind the former Bulldog Zach Mettenberger, had held its late lead in Sanford Stadium last fall. And the sight of Nick Marshall, who’d been a Georgia cornerback, throwing the long ball that became the tipped Prayer at Jordan-Hare spawned gnashing beyond measure, but with both Mettenberger and Marshall there was this difference: Neither chose to leave Georgia. Both were dismissed from the football team. Both went the JUCO route and then transferred to an SEC school. Neither went directly from Athens to another conference outpost.

Carter’s case is obviously different. AD Mike Bobinski said he hasn’t expressed a desired destination — there’s an appeals process, should he wish to sign with Georgia or, say, Clemson — and this could all be a moot point. Rumor holds that Carter could be bound for Auburn, which just hired the disgraced Bruce Pearl. Auburn is only a bit farther from North Avenue than Athens or Clemson, but it’s not in Tech’s conference and it doesn’t play Tech every winter. That mightn’t sound like much of a difference to you, but it does to me.

From myajc.com: Will Carter’s departure leave Tech in the lurch?

641 comments
FireSomebody
FireSomebody

Fine, you argued both sides.  Now pick one.

WalterEgo
WalterEgo

Bradley this is a farcical stance.  Did you just cry for poor Georgia Tech?  They control just about every aspect of the student's lives.  They are harmed FAR LESS when someone leaves than the students when they aren't allowed to.   Many if not most schools offer year to year scholarships (i.e. Alabama) and they can walk away fro these kids without consequence or rationale?  Yet the KIDS are under contract for 5 years?!?  At least the schools should be forced to the same time frame of commitment that the students are?  Would you not agree with this Bradley?  


These are kids.  Most won't play pro sports even overseas.  Old white (I'm white) men should stop making up bylaws that allow them control over their lives without them getting similar controls.  It's AMATEUR.  All the money shouldn't impact the lives of these kids.  UGA is one of the few if not the only school that looks out for these young men.  Shame on you Bradley picking the bylaws of old white men and crying boo-boo major university at the expense of young men's choice and in some cases livelihood.  No wonder AMATEUR athletes want to unionize.  They don't get the most basic of protections from old-white men.  


Kudos to Richt and UGA on this one.


ChuckAllison
ChuckAllison

Robert Carter said he didn't want to talk with UGA anyway.  Can you blame him?
The kid has ambition and wants to play in a good program.

Why deny a kid?  UGA lets anyone that doesn't want to be there go to wherever they want.  That's because at UGA, as much as we love to win, the kids happiness MATTERS MOST!  


tomkat1111
tomkat1111

Tech is completely without class on this issue.

Defins
Defins

That's what's wrong with college sports.. If the coach wanted to leave there would be no problem. 

grh0317
grh0317

The Old Guy>>>> It's joke time..

Know what happens when a UGA fan  takes viagra?

He thinks his UGA football team can beat Bama, LSU or South Carolina!! LOL 

grh0317
grh0317

Mark Bradley, do you understand GT will continue to

pound UGA in basketball without Carter Jr.? I know you

can appreciate this as a GT supporter...

10Dawgs
10Dawgs

It's how GT wants to run it's program. Just like Coach Fish Fry telling a recruit, publicly committed to GT that he can't take any other official trips or the scholly offer will be pulled. It's hard enough to recruit and kids know they don't have to put up with crap like that. I'm glad McGarity made it public. It will hurt future recruiting at GT. GTBee, why put up with crap like that when a kid can get a quality education at Duke or Vandy or a number of other schools. GT does not have a monopoly on a quality education. 

TheOldGuy
TheOldGuy

Lighten up folks. It's joke time:



What happens when a Georgia Tech fan takes Viagra?  He gets taller


FGT
FGT

GT = pillow fight U

FGT
FGT

GT is about to be taken over by GSU.

Mark it down!

GTBee
GTBee

THWG. Carter will nvr be a superstar and to give up a free education at GT is just asinine. These kids are clueless.

Getting_Older
Getting_Older

@DogFaced,

In the business world, many companies have non-complete clauses in their hiring agreements.  The company does not allow me to go to work for a competitor for a certain length of time.   This is basically the same thing.


Getting_Older
Getting_Older

I thought it was fairly classless of McGarity to complain in the media.  I am sure he already knew Tech's policy.  Then comparing it to Daniel Miller's transfer after a coaching change was totally bogus. He knew he was comparing apples to oranges.


Bad Form Magarity!

dawgfacedboy
dawgfacedboy

A UT fan making fun of the redneck UGA fan???????? HAHAHAHAHA!! Irony?

dawgfacedboy
dawgfacedboy

IT's a bunch of crap. If the kid leaves how is it even legal for the school to put restrictions on where he goes? If it were a place of business he could do whatever he wants.

How in the world does the school he's leaving have a leg to stand on in telling that student where he can go?

Ridiculous.

PoliticalOutsider
PoliticalOutsider

It's a beautiful day in Athens, Georgia

And Tech still sucks.

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown

Georgie tek tried same stunt with Quincy Carter, when they signed him too, and would not release him, either.

RealLurker
RealLurker

Interesting the McGarity stresses that UGA places no restrictions on transfers.  The SEC does have restrictions on transfers.  Is he saying that UGA does not follow the SEC rules, or that since the rules are SEC rules UGA isn't  "technically" responsible for them?

thebucket
thebucket

To all the GT fans gloating about Carter not being interested in UGA: He also has no interest in playing for GT and he has actually been @ Tech for 2 years.

hpt84
hpt84

 The AJC reported that Carter have no interest in UGA

GTBob
GTBob

@10Dawgs  How exactly is it going to hurt recruiting? You think we get a lot of guys at GT who value the ability to transfer to UGA if they want to in the future? If they did then they would probably just pick UGA in the first place.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@10Dawgs  

The majority of schools in the country, and all in the ACC, have the same policy.  It won't hurt recruiting in the least.  You want some cheese with that WHINE?  And if you think McGarity wouldn't do the same thing if it were Todd Gurley wanting to go someplace else, then you're living in denial.  He would change Georgia's "policy" in a heartbeat.  Even as things are now, any player leaving Georgia has to sit out a year before playing for another SEC school, so it's really not much different.  Besides, Carter already said he has no interest in going to Athens.  NEXT

thebucket
thebucket

@Getting_Older Talk about comparing apples to oranges, these players are supposed to be student-athletes, not employees.

GTBee
GTBee

In what? Educational Excellence? Baseball? Basketball?

NCDawg
NCDawg

@POAD2014 you know it is really creepy when someone posts self portraits.  Really creepy.

TEXAS DAWG
TEXAS DAWG

@RealLurker I think it is a little of both. UGA could block a kid from transferring to another school as a scholarship athlete by refusing to release him. He could go to the other school and pay his own way. As for the eligibility to play, that is totally the NCAA and/or conference. A kid released by UGA could immediately transfer to any other school and be given a scholarship (since he was given his release) but would not be able to play until the time limit set by the NCAA/conference has expired. I may be reading this wrong but that is the impression that I got.

NCDawg
NCDawg

@thebucket they don't get it.  All they can do is take some twisted thrill out of the kid not wanting to go to Georgia.  But what do you expect from envy obsessed Bugs?

POAD2014
POAD2014

@thebucket  he didn't pick UGa from the start because he KNEW the mutts had NOTHING to offer him. He thought TECH and the ACC could help his NBA dreams come true. So now he doesn't think so. I hope he makes it to the NBA.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@thebucket  

The fact that he doesn't want to go to the cesspool of the south actually makes him a hero in most Tech fans' eyes, despite our disappointment in losing him.  I wish him all the best

RealLurker
RealLurker

@TEXAS DAWG I could be wrong, but as I understand it, the SEC has prohibitions in place for transfers.  I am pretty sure that the SEC will not allow a transfer from one SEC school to another SEC school.  They may have other prohibitions as well, but I have not read their rules, only news reports about SEC kids who want to transfer.  A kid released from UGA would NOT be allowed to transfer to another SEC school.  The UGA kids who have ended up at other SEC schools transferred to JUCO first,  then the other SEC school.  McGarity's comment makes the implication that if a kid wants to leave UGA, that he can go to ANY school he wants to.  He may have worded his comment such that the actual wording of his comments are true, but the implication is not.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@TEXAS DAWG You got it right. The ex-player can go to ANY SCHOOL for an EDUCATION but he is not eligible for Athletics until he clears the NCAA or conference rules. 

thebucket
thebucket

@NCDawg @thebucket You are exactly right NC! Like I said earlier, one of the symptoms of UGA Obsession Disorder is being happier that UGA can't get a good player than mad that the same player left GT! It's pretty pathetic when you think about it.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@NCDawg You have been crying ALL DAY that he should be allowed to talk to a TEAM he couldn't give a BUTT SNIFF ABOUT and as most of us told you..............UGa isn't anything he cares about.

You mutts have cried all day it is wrong it is wrong....but the TRUTH it doesn't matter cause he wouldn't HIKE his LEG on the UGa campus to pee on a bush, unlike your own fans.


The_Real_KJ
The_Real_KJ

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt @10Dawgs  Give examples.  Oh wait, you can't, because you're a worthless retarded POS that bases his life on desperately trying to degrade a school that you likely couldn't even get into.  Do the world a favor and go play in traffic on North Avenue.

thebucket
thebucket

@SupersizeThatOrder-mutt @NCDawg@thebucket I'm not whining about Carter. You can't lose and miss someone who was never yours to begin with. I disagree with how Carter's situation has been handled and the NCAA wants their cake and they want to eat it too by treating the players like employees and calling them students. I have been on her to poke fun at all of you UGA Obsessed Tech fans! Go back and count how many times you and your sidekick have posted today and then count how many times I have posted. Maybe the light bulb will come on for you when you compare those 2 numbers.

SupersizeThatOrder-mutt
SupersizeThatOrder-mutt

@thebucket @NCDawg  

I guess you don't remember how PO'd the mutt fans were when Dewberry and Sorrells transferred to Tech.  The garbage your fans spread about those two players could have filled two dump trucks.  Don't think we are the only  fans who hate our rivals.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@thebucket  I KNOW the President and Sec of State Lied about Benghazi but I don't have the paper trail either.

thebucket
thebucket

@POAD2014 @NCDawg Funny story, I have a friend who works for Athens Clarke County Police who arrested a Tech player who was peeing off a frat house porch in Athens. Never saw it in the papers, but I know it happened.

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