Posted: 1:24 pm Monday, March 24th, 2014

Surprising SEC hasn’t yet lost in this Big Dance 

By Mark Bradley

The 11th-seeded Vols are still dancing. (Chuck Burton/AP)

The 11th-seeded Vols are still dancing. (Chuck Burton/AP)

The SEC was rewarded with only three bids to the NCAA tournament, and one of those came with an asterisk: Tennessee was made to play a First Four game in Dayton to gain admission to the round of 64. This isn’t to say the committee slighted the SEC. On the contrary, the league got what its performance deserved.

Only two SEC teams — Florida and Georgia — exceeded expectations. Florida did it by a lot, rising to become the nation’s top-ranked team; Georgia did it by a little, going 12-6 in conference play after being 6-6 in non-conference games. Kentucky, ranked No. 1 in preseason, contrived to lose 10 games and fall out of the Associated Press Top 25. Tennessee wasn’t as good as it should have been, and neither were Arkansas, Missouri and LSU. According to RPI, the SEC finished as the nation’s seventh-best conference, which is pretty awful.

Less awful is how those three SEC teams that did gain entrance to the Big Dance have performed. All three are still going. Florida should reach the Final Four without undue difficulty. Kentucky and Tennessee could meet for the Midwest Regional title. The Gators figured out how to play a while ago; the Wildcats and Volunteers are just now doing so, but better late than never, huh?

Six conferences drew more bids than the SEC’s three. No conference has more teams remaining than the SEC’s three. The ACC has lost five of its six, the Pac-12 four of its seven, the Atlantic 10 five of its six, the Big East four of its four.

The SEC’s problem wasn’t so much talent — Kentucky is at worst the nation’s second-most gifted team, and Tennessee is among the top 10 — as the failure to maximize manpower. That’s how Georgia, with its modest resources, managed to go 5-1 against Arkansas, Missouri and LSU, all of which had much better players. But that lack of talent ultimately doomed the Bulldogs to the NIT, and they were eliminated in Round 2 at home by Louisiana Tech, which led by 26 points after 12 1/2 minutes Saturday.

We spent most of the season asking, “Why aren’t these SEC teams any better?” With Kentucky and Tennessee, we’re seeing why this question kept being asked. Driven partly by desperation, those two teams have started to act like actual teams, with the upshot being that nobody would relish playing either one right now.

From myajc.com, our premium site: Mercer is gone, but the SEC is still dancing.

 

42 comments
TheOldGuy
TheOldGuy

I see the usual Tech trash is clogging a UGA blog. The low lifes have no lifes.

Delusionaldog
Delusionaldog

And yet again, the dogs are riding coattails. 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

ThomAss, ThomAss ..........Bueller. ACC,ACC,ACC

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown

DawgNole September 5th, 2012  5:22 pm


“I’m on a Tech blog because I follow Tech and pull for the Jackets in all games except those with UGA and FSU.”


DawgNole January 4th, 2013 6:13 pm


"Half of me pulled for the Dawgs, half for the Noles–depending on the game situation. Mixed feelings, torn, and still don’t know who I’d pull for if they play again."


DawgNole at 8:00 p.m. Dec. 6, 2013


“True that, TB--then and now.”


DawgNole January 5th, 2013 10:38 pm

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“You’re the only one who appears to have an issue with that.”

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Swamp Thing September 3rd, 2012 4:54 pm

“DawgNole (which end is the Dawg and which end is the Nole?)”

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown

ACC nation's 5th best conference in RPI.


ACC 6-5 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament


SEC 7-0 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament


The question is how in the Hell can all these AJ-C posters state the ACC is the best basketball conference ?


ACC has 1 team remaining, although HANDED six (6) NCAA bids.


ACC has 1 team remaining Sweet 16, same as Mountain West.


Yeah, right, the ACC is the nation's best basketball conference.

Zing
Zing

Two observations, my dear Mr. Bradley:


1. The RPI is flawed in many ways; one of those is treating every game the same, regardless of when it occurs.  That's absurd when you are trying to figure out who the best team is NOW.  So, naturally, TN figures it out, starts playing to its talent, and the RPI won't recognize that.  Same thing happened with Georgia.  


2.  The power conference that sends the fewest teams always looks the best.  Why?  Because their middling teams won't be in the tournament to be beat.  Happens every year.

William1952
William1952

That is, another SEC team is national champ.

William1952
William1952

I am a Mercer grad and fan and an SEC fan.  Congratulations to the Vols, and I hope they or another SEC is national champ.

grh0317
grh0317

We like you Mark were all pulling for the ACC and

our local Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. We expect them dancing next year.


KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

If your team gets into the sweet 16 then you're not lucky but damn good! It has nothing to do with the conference.

JDPuma
JDPuma

First, the Pac 12 had only 6 teams in the tournament, not 7.  Second, the only arguably-impressive win the SEC has had so far was Kentucky's over Wichita State.  The SEC will face real competition in all of its Sweet Sixteen games and there is a reasonable chance that none of its teams will advance.

JDPuma
JDPuma

First, the Pac 12 had only 6 teams in the tournament, not 7.  Second, the only arguably-impressive win the SEC has had so far was Kentucky's over Wichita State.  The SEC will face real competition in all of its Sweet Sixteen and there is a reasonable chance that none of its teams will advance.

Peachs
Peachs

I think Tennessee is lucky but something about these Kentucky teams both Ky and Louisville they get better as the season goes on. You got to think competition holds them back a little in the SEC. Most sports fans in the SEC could care less about basketball; they are located in the back roads so it is hard to get there in a weekday. It gets to be a grind particularly for the teams not doing well in the first place.

The ACC is played in large metro cities a crowd is usually there, the first couple of rounds of the NCAA are like going back to the minors for them. They don’t feel the excitement the SEC teams might feel.

VanguardETFs
VanguardETFs

The dichotomy of being a UGA fan: root against our dreaded enemies or pull for the SEC.  Oy!


Still fun to watch Ken and Tenn yesterday.  They both looked good.

Delusionaldog
Delusionaldog

Another coattail riding opportunity for the dogs! 

GTBob
GTBob

On a side note, the selection committee really wanted to stick it to Wichita St huh? Second round they get Kentucky who has as much talent as anyone. A joke of an 8 seed. If they would have won that they would have gotten Louisville. The defending champions who are ranked in the top 5 yet magically got a 4 seed. That is a ridiculous region.

GTBob
GTBob

Florida is a really good team. Kentucky is playing closer to their potential. They played a great game to knock off Wichita St. Tennessee just got lucky with their games. Iowa, Umass, and Mercer isn't exactly a murderers row of teams to face. I'll be more impressed if they can beat Michigan.

JeffreyEav
JeffreyEav

I texted the exact same thing to my buddy last night. He had the misfortune of going to an acc school.

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown



Posted by gtcaryd at 7:43 a.m. Jan. 17, 2014



"TomAss please try to remember, and i understand your a UGA Alum so it might be touch and go for a while. You see our players can actually read and write"



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gtcaryd at 12:18 p.m. Jan. 5, 2014




“And thanks again for pointing out that Tech cant beat CMR. That doesnt bother me near as much as the state of your football program.”



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gtcarydJan. 21, 2014



“UGA,Middle Tenn St., and Marshall, Richt is a saint.”




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gtcaryd at 12:51 p.m. Jan. 5, 2014




“I have stated before more than once that i am a die hard love em no matter what Tech fan. So the product UGA trotted out their Jan 1 was as dissapointing if not more than my Jackets who have all the problems anybody needs.”



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gtcaryd at8:29 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014



“Your getting a little personal Tom but ok i confess, I Love GT!”



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gtcaryd at7:15 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014



“are a educated man. Didnt work.”



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gtcaryd at7:29 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014



“Oh so i wake up spell something wrong and thats all you got to bring at me”



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gtcaryd at7:15 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014



"there probably UGA grads"


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Mulk
Mulk

@ThomasBrown  Like the man said, "the league got what its performance deserved." No way can you make the SEC a strong basketball conference. 

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown

@Zing


Recalculate conference RPI right now and ACC is the nation's # 6 RPI Conference, and in fact, The SEC has caught them too to make ACC the nation's # 7 RPI Conference.


The fact is you're talking about games now as important, and it is clear that both The SEC and the Atlantic 10 both, passed the ACC conference in conference RPI, as the Atlantic 10 has as many remaining teams in the Big Dance as the mighty ACC basketball conference. The ACC says it is the best basketball conference.


You brag that the power conference who sends the least number of teams always looks the best, you say because the middling teams won't be in the Tournament to beat.


Is Duke  a Middling ACC team ?


Duke got beat in the Big Dance by a team who in their very next game got blown-out, against a team who had to play their way into the Big Dance, not in the Round of 64 if they do not win the play-in Round of 68.


SEC vols did not just beat the team who beat Duke HANDILY, but it was a blow-out of Biblical Proportions


vols SEC over team who beat Duke in the very next round by 20 points


Middling team for ACC Duke ?


SEC also beat another ACC team by 16 points and now faces # 4 seed UCLA.


Syracuse another middling ACC team ?


Duke and Syracuse are both ACC # 3-seeds.


Syracuse another non-middling ACC team, lost to 11-seed.


That's two (2) non-middling ACC teams who both lost to 11-seeds or worse as # 3-seeds from ACC.


Duke lost in its 1st game for God's Sake.


Duke played in Raleigh right there to # 14 seed in 1st Round as ACC # 3-seed.


North Carolina State also ACC lost in their 1st game to St. Louis who got blown-out in their next game by fifteen (15) points.


North Carolina is not playing any longer either.


ACC # 6-seed North Carolina another middling ACC team ?


ACC # 6-seed North Carolina lost in their 2nd game.


ACC homers abound with your excuses for the ACC flopping on its collective faces.


You call yourself the nation's # 1 basketball conference, then dream up excuses about middling teams.


# 3-seeds

# 3-seeds

# 6-seeds are NOT middling teams


All three (3) of these ACC non-middling teams, LOST.


Face it, the ACC is NOT what you say it is despite your lies about middling teams.


ACC non-middling teams LOST.


And, for the ACC homers in here complaining the vols have not beat anyone, excuse me they just won by 20 points over the very team your ACC mighty # 3-seed lost to by 7.


A blow-out.


Blow-out # 14-seed Mercer over Duke # 3-seed by 7.  Ran away with the game over Duke 78-71.


Then, vols 83-63 over that team.


"The SEC will lose all their Sweet 16 games."


Huh ?


2 of The SEC teams are one game away from playing each other already.


This is the Sweet 16 right now, and despite the ACC having two # 3-seeds and a # 6-seed, none of those teams are in the Sweet 16 - obviously those are the nation's top-ranked teams, bounced.


ACC is the # 7 conference in the NCAA Tourney at 6-5 with 1 lone representative remaining.


ACC is the # 7 conference in the RPI recalculated right now at 6-5 when games count the most you say with 1 lone representative remaining despite having two # 3-seeds and a # 6-seed


All gone.


Since when are two # 3-seeds and a # 6-seed, middling teams ?


Duke is # 8

Syracuse is # 14

North Carolina is # 19


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings/_/poll/1



ACC is over-rated.


ACC has fallen on its collective face.


And, THAT is what this article should be about.


I'm unimpressed.

GTBob
GTBob

@KeepOnSmilingWetWillie  I somewhat agree with this but if you are an 11 seed and you play three games without playing an team anywhere near the top 25 then you had a pretty fortunate tournament road so far.

JeffersonDavisHogg
JeffersonDavisHogg

@GTBob Got to agree with you about Louisville. I had heard last week that that Las Vegas would have them favored over every team in the region in team to team match ups yet they got a 4 seed. I was pulling hard for Wichita but won't be surprised in the least to see Ky in the final 4 now

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@ThomasBrown Brilliant response ThomAss, nice stroll down memory lane. I'm flattered you saved my posts.

ThomasBrown
ThomasBrown

@Mulk



Posted by Mulk at 9:50 a.m. Nov. 1, 2013

  • @thomas brown,

  • "Alabama is a very good football team. If they don't win the NC this year, it doesn't mean that the SEC is not a good conference."
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    The ACC is the ISSUE : 3 over-ranked ACC men's basketball teams ranked # 8, # 14 and # 19 in the AP Poll this week, all 3 LOST.

    The ACC cannot say it is the best basketball conference.

    There is nothing in saying the ACC is not the best basketball conference, either, which says that The SEC is.

    You, as usual are arguing about B.S. Mulk.

    The ACC clearly is not the best basketball conference.

    You were not prior to the NCAA tourney, and you damn sure aren't now.


    gtcaryd
    gtcaryd

    @ThomasBrown @Zing ACC 2-0 in BCS, SEC 0-2 in BCS. So obviously ACC is stronger conference than SEC, right ThomAss?

    KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
    KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

    GTBobby.....winning two games is  a big deal. It came down to the last shot in so many games as to which team marched on.

    ThomasBrown
    ThomasBrown

    @gtcaryd


    " And i am in no way, shape, form, or fashion a representative of the Ga. Institute of Technology.  "


    Yeah, you are; you have their name in your handle and you're an idgit of the highest order - unable to pass the GED on your best day.


    A moron.


    IQ 88

    gtcaryd
    gtcaryd

    @ThomasBrown ThomAss, I realize you are the smartest guy to graduate from UGA. And i am in no way, shape, form, or fashion a representative of the Ga. Institute of Technology. That does not mean i dont love GT. Basically i am here to try to keep your hate filled rhetoric in check. As i said before, i dont need a degree to get the best of you. You might want to get a couple more. Remember ACC2-0 in BCS SEC0-2, guess we have the strongest conference.

    ThomasBrown
    ThomasBrown

    @gtcaryd


    You don't even know, even looking at it.  And, you run in here and rep for Georgie tek.

    gtcaryd
    gtcaryd

    @ThomasBrown @gtcarydYou might want to read again, I said i was flattered that you are such a fan of mine. My post are not very flattering, maybe aggravating sometimes. But we can always count on yours being filled with hate.

    ThomasBrown
    ThomasBrown

    @gtcaryd


    Flattering posts of yours ?


    I'd surely hate then to see your unflattering posts.

    gtcaryd
    gtcaryd

    @ThomasBrown @MulkAhhhh, nothing like a little refreshing Hate from ThomAss in the morning. The ACC was the strongest conference this season, god you whine like a child.

    GTBob
    GTBob

    @KeepOnSmilingWetWillie  Like I said, that is true but look at what the other 11 seeds faced or would have had to have faced if they won in the first round:

    Dayton - Ohio St and Syracuse. Two top 20 teams.
    Nebraska - Creighton and Baylor. Two top 25 teams
    Providence - UNC and Iowa St. Two top 25 teams.
    Tennessee - UMass and Mercer. Two teams nowhere near the top 25.

    One of these teams was more fortunate than the others.