Posted: 10:04 am Wednesday, January 29th, 2014

SnowJam 2014: Atlanta at its absolute worst 

By Mark Bradley

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Atlanta at dawn on Wednesday. (Ben Gray/AJC)

And here we Atlantans figured it was New York/New Jersey that would get snowed on and gridlocked and embarrassed on a civic level this week. Turns out we sunny Southerners aren’t impervious to Super Bowl weather — before the Chick-fil-A Bowl moved indoors and became the Chick-fil-A Bowl, we used to call it “Peach Bowl weather” — even when the Super Bowl is being staged 880 miles to the north.

What happened Tuesday — what is happening still — was/is the most sobering experience of the almost-30 years I’ve spent in Atlanta. Using the Weather Channel’s measure, this part of Cobb County saw just under two inches of snow. We didn’t get sleet. We didn’t get freezing rain, though the freezing would come later. This was not the epic ice storm of 2011 that paralyzed Atlanta for a full working week. This was two inches of snow on a Tuesday morning/afternoon.

At 11:50 a.m. Tuesday, I drove home from a non-essential errand — I got my hair cut — as the snow was starting. I knew Cobb County schools planned to dismiss two hours early. There were no traffic issues at 11:50, and I assumed my wife, who works five minutes from our house, and my younger daughter, whose school is 15 minutes away, would be home before things got dicey.

At 12:58, I clicked on the Atlanta traffic map. (Bobby Cox is one of those who watches radar weather as a habit; I’m one who checks traffic.) Having lived here three decades, nothing should surprise me. This shocked me so much that I made an iPhone screenshot to preserve the image.

In the span of an hour, Atlanta had turned not so much white with snow as red with coagulated roads. My wife called to say she was headed to school to drive my daughter home. They would arrive at 5:30 p.m., having required five hours to go five miles on South Cobb Drive and the East-West Connector — two major Cobb arteries — before ditching the car at a bank and walking the last mile.

Atlanta traffic at 12:58 p.m. Tuesday. (MB)

Atlanta traffic at 12:58 p.m. Tuesday. (MB)

I drove to the top of our hilly subdivision to pick them up and was met by a dozen folks trudging up the hill on Cooper Lake. One man I asked said he was walking because his car couldn’t negotiate the slope. The men to whom we gave rides said they’d just tired of sitting on the E-W Connector.

As it turned out, my family and our home-before-dark neighbors were lucky. I figured the gridlock would ease once folks got where they were going — yes, I’m as good at predicting traffic as I am at picking games — but as the night wore on we keep hearing stories via Twitter and Facebook that were, pun absolutely not intended, chilling.

The school bus my daughter would have ridden had my wife not driven her home (or nearly home) couldn’t make the grade on the E-W Connector and had turned around and parked at Publix. This was at 8:30 p.m., seven hours after official dismissal. The hungry kids walked across the shopping center to the China Wok, which took mercy on them and provided food.

We heard of nine-hour slogs home for neighbors; of even longer slogs that hadn’t yet gotten the sloggers home; of Cobb students and teachers and principals sleeping overnight at their schools. One of the givens of American life — that after a day at work or school, you’ll get to go home — was a given no more.

The attempt here isn’t to assess blame. (For one thing, I see mitigating circumstances. Should school systems have closed all day for a storm that hadn’t begun and never rose to the level of a blizzard? Can roads be salted when they’re already jammed? Should governors and mayors be responsible for regulating human behavior?) This is more an admission of a frailty that, before Tuesday afternoon, I didn’t know existed. I didn’t know we as a city were this vulnerable to two inches of snow.

Northerners cluck about Southerners not knowing how to drive in the snow, and that’s partially true. (Also understandably true, given that we don’t get much practice.) But SnowJam 2014 was as much a function of congestion as it was meteorological conditions or automotive dexterity. We have too many cars and not enough roads, and when something happens to put most of us on those roads at the exact same moment and then those roads ice over … well, we can’t handle it. It pains me to admit it, but we just can’t.

We were flummoxed by the ice storm on the Friday before our Super Bowl in January 2000. (That put a crimp into the Friday-night parties, which really frosted the NFL.) Much of downtown was brought to a standstill — there was no weather involved — on the Saturday before the NBA All-Star Game in 2003. The 1996 Olympics went off better than they probably should have because ACOG terrified everyone into taking MARTA, but MARTA, for much of the metro area on an everyday basis, isn’t a viable option. When we Cobb Countians fret about the traffic jams that could arise from the Braves’ planned relocation to the Galleria area, we have reason.

Were I an organization considering where to put a major sporting event staged in the winter months, I’d look elsewhere. Imagine if we’d gotten our two inches of snow on Super Bowl Media Day. Imagine adding team buses and media shuttles and Roger Goodell’s limo to the crush that hit our streets Tuesday. I know we just played host to a Final Four that came off nicely, but that was in April. If there’s even a jot of bad weather, we go belly-up. And by “we,” I don’t just mean mayors and governments and school boards and GDOT. I mean all of us.

Saying as much brings no joy. I like living here — always have, always will. But, as Inspector Harry Callahan said, a man has to know his limitations. The downside of living in Atlanta is that we’re bad with traffic and worse with weather. When the two were fused by two inches of snow, we were at our absolute worst.

242 comments
dewhit
dewhit

You still have some of the same idiot drivers on the roadway in the snow as you do on dry sunny days and their foolish and dangerous habits behind the wheel start the problem in extreme situations such as what happened.


We actually need more patrolmen pulling traffic duty and pulling some of these knuckleheads over and giving tickets and explaining how multi lane highways operate and general traffic enforcement.   


At least there were no gun battles on the gridlocked roads.   



DougTheJacket
DougTheJacket

A great article, reminiscent of Ralph McGill's writing, actually.  I greatly enjoyed reading and you are right - we are not good with traffic or weather. 

sold1000
sold1000

@Uforget Well Said my friend...well said.  SnowJam 82 was awful.  I was in high school but I remember my mom having to leave her car on I-20 and walk a very long way home.  She was nearly frozen by the time she made it home. 

Uforget
Uforget

It takes a sports writer to point out the obvious. Whatever you want to call the last several days and whoever you choose to blame, Atlanta's problem is too many cars and an inadequate infrastructure to handle those cars and the people who drive them. Look around the next time you are stuck in traffic. How many single passenger vehicles do you see? People like to compare to SnowJam '82. Check the population growth since '82. Too many people with too many cars in too small a space. if every person in New York drove a personal vehicle to work everyday, how do you think they would be at handling a weather event? Keep under-funding and generally resisting mass transit and this problem will only get worse. btw, how did you vote on the the TSPLOST Georgia Road Tax proposal in 2012?

Armydawg
Armydawg

New Year's Eve 1963, my first snow jam in Atlanta, four hours to go from Toco Hills to Clairmont and N Decatur Rd.  What have we learned since then?  Not one thing.

lvg
lvg

I was around for snowjam 1982- same snowfall during a work day; same chaos - nothing learned since then. Just traffic 10 times worse this time.

TheresaQ
TheresaQ

I guess you weren't around for SnowJam 1982.  Give it a rest.  This was a "perfect" storm (pardon the pun) and lots of circumstances converged to produce what we all lived through.  There is actually very little blame to be thrown, but that doesn't stop people.  I swear, people would sue Nature if they could.  A better way to look at it is that it brought out the best in a lot of people.  Stranger helping stranger all over the city.  And, we all lived through it to tell our grandchildren (which by then will be 30 years down the road - just in time for SnowJam 2044!!

Hunk
Hunk

Atlanta is a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there....and I grew up there.  Florida is much nicer.

lvg
lvg

City did just fine compared to 2011; state under GOP management has been a transportation disaster-25% layoff in DOT workers; salt barns  but no trucks on standby to spread salt as snow starts falling; cancellation of North arc  for trucks; and  anEMA manager who cannot read weather reports while legislature slashes budgets for schools and roads but  debates as priority expanding gun carry zones. MARTA was built and freeways doubled in size under Democratic state leadership.GOP voters in burbs got what they deserved.

Dman
Dman

I remember as a kid, then Govenor Carter got criticized for closing school when there was a threat of a snow storm and it didn't snow. Today, Govenor Deal didn't close school and he is beating butchard. Just can't win in a situation like this.

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

Best of luck to Reed and the GWCC on winning bids for major winter sporting events to fill that new stadium. Nobody in their right mind would bring a big event to Atlanta between Dec and March and risk a repeat of what just happened. That stadium will be a financial albatross and will put an end to Reed's political future.

Kellix
Kellix

I work downtown and left when it started snowing. I got home after almost 2 wrecks and seeing this poor girl that did a 180 and tore her right quarter panel off. The politicians get the blame. Well deservedly, the National weather service let them know 8 HOURS before the snow started falling, not OUR weather people. Now 8 hours, that's plenty of time for someone to say close the schools. Kids are at home, there goes a chunk of the traffic. Also this BS about let people leave at a staggered rate has never been in a Riot before. When people leave they just LEAVE. I got released at 1200 and saw on the highways the snow was sticking, unlike our wonderful weather people who said the storm would be in south Georgia, looking at you Glenn Burns, This is the same guy in the 90s that said we would only get 15-20% of freezing rain and not to worry about it and it would start at 1200. Its started at 900, by the morning I heard tree branches snapping and transformers exploding and 1/2 of Atlanta was out of Power. Why is it when the weather people get it wrong they don't get paid for the week? Or something like your Fired? Anyway back to our 2 inches of snow, if the kids were at home it would have been better If the DOT knew aka weather men that it was coming then we could have had the roads salted. That didn't happen. Then we get a cluster f--k that seemed bigger then the one in 2011. But that one was at night. No one was stuck out in their cars. Its ridiculous for the DOT to buy salt sprayers if they can't drive thru BMWs and Mercedes. The people that need to get it right  are the weather people.. Like I said I have kept count on that one weatherman I mentioned and he's screwed up 5-6 times. In the working world you would get fired. I see why in Britain they consider the weatherman the lowest person the evolutionary ladder, but its easy there, the weather sucks all the time. Also whoever thinks putting the Braves off Windy Hill is bright, they need a few hundred cat scans, or forced to drive that route between 5-6 during the work week for 2 months. Its just plain stupid.

KennethCown
KennethCown

Two major things, that can logistically be changed in play here, in my opinion. 1.) No coordinated effort to keep emergency lanes and shoulders clear. 2.) 18 wheelers forced to use "Atlanta Bottle Neck"  on I-75 (this is daily, not just snow/ice days.)  Whenever the "Emergency Plan" is activated, there should immediately be a PRE-coordinated Interstate/Highway patrol plan, using all city and state patrol men (GSP, APD, GDOT, etc.) It is critical that ALL emergency lanes and shoulders be continually patrolled and cleared, so that the emergency responders (ambulance, fire, wreckers) can get from A to B to C as quickly as possible, so that the back ups don't actually get so "backed up" in the first place.  The other logistical problem is the 18 wheeler bottle neck on I-75. Atlanta needs a By-Pass on I-75, my thinking would be to start it somewhere near Cartersville/Acworth, go down through Austell/Mableton area, then down through Fairburn/Palmetto area and then connect I-75 around McDonough/Locust Grove area. This road could then be used for ALL trucks, 6 axles or over ONLY, for truck traveling, but not necessarily needing to go down town Atlanta.

FarTrain
FarTrain

Is it true that one of the enterprising used car dealers went out on 285, put up a temporary sign and started a used car dealership?   Wouldn't surprise me really if it happened.  Think my brother is pulling my leg though!

Section212
Section212

The people who deserve to be most heavily criticized are the numbskull leadership of the local school systems, this includes private schools also.  Given all the weather warnings (remember warning means imminent), all these folks thought it was best to NOT cancel school for the day.  My wife and I have lived in ATL since '91 and made the decision from experience to keep our child home from school and to work from home.  Though I do not defend the mayor or the governor or DOT, I'm sure their inclement winter weather plans assumed that schools would have been closed.  If schools had been closed for the day, there would have been less people on the roads during the time when the snow began to fall.


Ultimately it is up to each person to make the best decision for themselves and their family, not the government.  So I say shame on you Mark Bradley for not making the decision to keep your daughter home from school.  You work in the news business, but I guess you do not trust our own company's weatherman!

Ted4thebirds
Ted4thebirds

Get over it.  We had a similar storm in Portland Oregon a few years ago.  You may think we get a lot of them but with an elevation of 100 to 700 feet around the city, we rarely have an ice/snow event like Atlanta had.


Sure we have de-icer trucks and we have like 9, soon to be 10 bridges and multiple overpasses.  The light rail trains have issues and stop when there are conditions like Atlanta just had.  Well, with our weather event, the bus drivers parked the buses and told everyone to get off.  So they had to walk home.  I was stuck in one position for 5 plus hours.  Everyone got off about the same time and experienced the same gridlock.  Did we blame the public officials?  No.  Was the weather report about the same with the same notification?  Yes.


So try to use this event to be ready next time.  Listen to the weather reports.  I have told my kids that the most important thing in their lives as they live near Atlanta, is the weather.  Remember a person can die of exposure not matter what the temperature.  Watch the Weather Channel and confirm it with your local newscast.


We get little time to get our weather info sometimes.  We have 5 influences within our city weatherwise where each one can change the situation on their own much less together.  The best weatherman was a guy with a bowtie back in the 1950's who said that he could predict the weather about a day and a half out.  No space age weather info, no national weather input, just a guy who used history and someother magic  to get it right.

So find a weatherperson who cares more about learning from the weather than one who wants to place blame on another human being.


A little common sense and relying on your own instincts goes along way.  Best wishes on your recovery.

From a Native Oregonian.

At home in Larryville
At home in Larryville

Amazing that anyone is trying, in hindsight nonetheless, to blame government on the traffic gridlock, as if Gov Deal and Kasim Reed had control over all businesses, indivividuals, and the schools whose poor decision making led to the problem.  I 'm guessing these are the same people that blamed Bush for Katrina, though.  


Luckovich's cartoon today makes me want to puke, but he is a liberal who believes in the nanny state....People, take some personal responsibility for the decision YOU made to go to work, send your child to school, or get on the interstates Tuesday knowing the possibility of a mid-day snowstorm.  Not to mention decisions you made not to be prepared with food, water, gas, or tire chains in the event of a storm. Also, too bad you were inconvenienced for a day.  Stuff happens, not everyday is going to be sunshine and lollipops, but all these bed-wetters around this town think that their inconveniences should be immediately solved by the government.  Disgusting....

TND
TND

Curt Mellish was the only one warning that this was going to come early and be worst than expected. My mom who lives on Douglasville but works at Powers Ferry all but begged her bosses to let her go at 10:30, they let her go at 10:45 after assessing what was already going on in Douglasville. She arrived home at 11:45 right before the nightmare commenced. I on the other hand wisely never left the house that day. I have lived my whole life in the ATL and what I have started to notice is how many more people are now living here. You are right, half the population on the road at the same time is a bad idea on any day! Gives you an idea of what would happen if any crisis were to take place (terrorist attacks, bad weather and lest we not forget the great "Zombie Apocalypse". If you live in the city, having a bug out or bug in plan in place (including in your car) is your best chance for survival here. Your government is neither responsible or liable for your protection. You have seen what can happen which means now you have been warned!

Baghead
Baghead

I'm trying to figure out why it pains you to admit it.  We have 3.5 interstates for 5 million people.  I say 1/2 because somebody thought it would be a cheap idea to combine 75./85 into a bottleneck.  Don't you see traffic on the Friday before memorial day?  the Friday before a July 4th weekend?  Weather or not, Atlanta can't handle more than 1/2 of the population on the road at the same time.  I can't wait for you to painfully admit Frank Wren is the biggest piece of garbage when it comes to GMs. 

An Opinion
An Opinion

Pull out some dump trucks, put down some ahead-of-time sand and salt on the interstates, do not open schools after a nationally broadcast snow warning, and this NEVER HAPPENS.

For the future, develop and publish a governmental cooperation plan with designated responsibilities and authorities to comprehensively cover the area for various emergencies.

By current messy rules it seems that the Governor and Head School Commissioners are most responsible for this specific failure, but did they have a defined way to coordinate a better response?

And above all, be realistic and humble World City Atlanta and LEARN from this. 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Moist, I could be wrong but their not practicing right now. Tell the truth Moist, you really wanted to be an engineer.

Halfback
Halfback

You can not release everyone from work and school at the same time and not expect the freeways in Atlanta to be overwhelmed.  Our transportation system is so underfunded that it nearly breaks down on a rainy Friday afternoon.


Regarding the next ice events, let me predict the future for you.   


*  A "lessons learned'" report will be prepared and put in a drawer and forgotten.

*  We will all over-react to the next predicted storm.  Schools and businesses will close, the weather will be beautiful, and the news media and bloggers will trash the leadership. 

*  This may even be repeated a time or two. 

*  THEN, when the next big storm is predicted, we will not be prepared, and we will endure this process again.


Somewhere is this there has to be some personal preparation and accountability instead of the Katrina example of "someone's got to come help me!" mind set.  

MoistDawg
MoistDawg

i dont care about the snow stuff. i used my time to watch some uga film i recorded from the tech (loosers) game to see how hutson mason looked.  i hope richt used this as a opportunity to get the players out and practice in bad weather because you can never be to prepped.  i know bama and sickening satan were probly doing the electric slide or whatever stupid dance he loves so much so i hope we were busy getting better and tougher.

PatJonesFama
PatJonesFama

Regarding your comment that Northerners cluck about Southerners not knowing how to drive in snow, you really still consider Atlanta a Southern city? The city was long ago overrun by snow-fleeing Northern transplants who brought their driving skills (or lack thereof) with them. Atlanta is so diluted with allegiances from everywhere else which is why you find more Cubs and Mets fans than Braves fans at Turner Field. As a native Atlantan born at Georgia Baptist Hospital in the 1950s, my wife and I got the hell out of town 15 years ago to Raleigh because of Atlanta's ridiculous congestion. It's amazing what eliminating 2-hour commutes every day will do for your overall mental well-being. I still love Atlanta as my hometown and come back to visit, but you can have its road dysfunction. I was amazed to move and learn that horn-honking and middle fingers are not expected behavior.

KatieR620
KatieR620

Say it for what it is,  this is a major city,  with the worst infrastructure of any major city in the entire world.

All flash,  no substance is Atlanta's credo.  

This will NEVER, be what the Mayor's and Governor's try to market it as (a world class city)  without spending billions to build infrastructure including,  roads,  mass transit and a functional sewer system.

This is a city with one large Delta Hub Airport and backwoods,  crap infrastructure,  not one person can argue otherwise.

ManfromMilton
ManfromMilton

Glad to know that another snow jam will never happen again since Obama declared that the argument for global warming is over....too bad his expertise is in weather patterns and not economic/foreign policy.

PS:  Another positive note, Georgians have finally shook the legacy of having birthed the most ineffective President ever, Hawaii (or is it Indonesia) now owns that mantle

gknight
gknight

My sister lived in northern Michigan for 5 years where the ground is freezing cold all winter.People up there use snow mobiles often because they can't drive their cars to the few cleared main roads.Our ground in Atlanta was colder than usual because of the extreme low temperatures.The DOT crews should have been out at the crack of dawn coating the bridges and overpasses with sand and the schools needed to be closed.Frozen ground and precip in Atlanta=disaster when everyone gets on the road at the same time.I walked for 10 hours and fell about 10 times to get home in the '82 snowjam.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

That must be one of Tom's favorites, you know that salt might be whats making my fries cold, thanks for the heads up.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Dang i thought ThomAss was giving us his recipe for homemade ice cream, just a Mr. Science episode.

patriotdog
patriotdog

It's amusing...and sad, that we can't have a civil discourse about something as important as the ineptitude of our elected buffoons, or as unimportant as college football without instantly resorting to name calling, insults, questioning of heritage, etc... And yes, I love college football but it has no bearing on anything to do with the world turning, it's a pastime.

Folks, people disagree with one another. It's a normal part of life. That doesn't make them bad folks, just of differing opinion than your own. Except for The Buckeye, that guy is an a$$.... oops.

TheresaQ
TheresaQ

@Armydawg We've learned that we can't afford the resources for an event that happens every 2 or 3 decades!

GeorgeJetsen
GeorgeJetsen

Tell that to the thousands who were stranded in their cars all night. Clearly you were not one of them.

alpha001
alpha001

@At home in Larryville Not everybody has the opportunity to decide to go into work or not.  Maybe it' easy for you but not everyone gets that choice.  I think the weather reports lulled everyone into believing it would be another non-event.  The Publix near my house in Cherokee was practically deserted Tue morning, no mad rush for essentials. I guess the people in Cherokee were just foolish, right?  When the snow came, most people thought it was just the dusting that the weather people predicted, until it didn't stop.  Yes, the schools and businesses should've closed earlier once it was apparent that the storm was heading north, but don't try to say people just didn't choose to be prepared.  That is ridiculous.  Go back down into your dark bunker and gloat some more.

MoistDawg
MoistDawg

@At home in Larryville i approve of your comment and i stopped looking at that idiots cartoons years ago because they made me want to vomit to.  people need to stop acting like a bunch of sissys.

At home in Larryville
At home in Larryville

@An Opinion 


1) Any salt and sand put out Tuesday morning on dry roads would have pushed to the shoulders by high speed traffic. It would have been ineffective and a colossal waste of money and resources.


2) They do have that, its called GEMA, which prepares more for true emergencies, such as tornadoes, floods, etc, not relatively mild snowstorms that stick around for a day or two.


3) Governor did the only things he was directly responsible for, which was closing state agencies and declaring a state of emergency.  School Board commissioners delgate the responsibility of closing schools to superintendents and individual school principals, who were stuck between a rock and hard place because a decision to cancel school would have brought down the heat from working parents who expect the schools to also be their babysitter.


The failure lies in each individuals decision-making, but this was also just one of those things that just happens every 30 years or so.  It wasn't like we sustained a devastating tornado or earthquake.  We, as individuals, need to get over it, leave it in the past and enjoy the day we have now,  and learn to prepare better next time.

MoistDawg
MoistDawg

@gtcaryd if i did i still wouldntve gone to tech.  uga has a better program and a better football team anyway

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

@Halfback No discussion of salt when it was 28 degrees when it hit.  And, no discussion once the roads were impassible, and we'd been out there for 18 hours, of putting out then in 11 degree weather, sand and gravel.  Instead, focus on what the politicians lie to you about that it was all of us on the road at the same time when we're all on the roads at the same time every morning and every night.  It was not that we were all on the road at the same time, but that the politicians never sent out salt trucks at 28 degrees when it hit, and once stuck, then 18 hours later at 11 degrees, no sand and gravel.  This is why we could not move - that the roads were impassible.  Not that we were all there, but that none of us could move.


Wake up.

PatJonesFama
PatJonesFama

@MoistDawg Loosers? You a UGA journalism school graduate?

Baghead
Baghead

Horn honking and middle fingers are rarely seen around Atlanta.  People are too scared of "offending" someone, or getting shot.  This is not NYC.  Stay in Raleigh.  I've heard the triangle and Charlotte are nightmares as well.

alpha001
alpha001

@ManfromMilton You must be desperate and lonely to have to troll message boards so you can post something negative about Obama.  And it's climate change, but you already knew that.

An Opinion
An Opinion

@ManfromMilton  But from your own words, Georgia now owns having given to the world the most scientifically ignorant and politically biased of online commentators.

Kynik
Kynik

@ManfromMiltonWhat on earth does this debacle have to do with Obama? Your comment says a lot more about you than it does about the president...

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

Posted by gtcaryd at 7:43 a.m. Jan. 17, 2014


"TomAss please try to remember, and i understand your a UGA Alum so it might be touch and go for a while. You see our players can actually read and write"

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gtcaryd at 12:18 p.m. Jan. 5, 2014


“And thanks again for pointing out that Tech cant beat CMR. That doesnt bother me near as much as the state of your football program.”


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gtcaryd Jan. 21, 2014


“UGA,Middle Tenn St., and Marshall, Richt is a saint.”


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gtcaryd at 12:51 p.m. Jan. 5, 2014


“I have stated before more than once that i am a die hard love em no matter what Tech fan. So the product UGA trotted out their Jan 1 was as dissapointing if not more than my Jackets who have all the problems anybody needs.”

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gtcaryd at8:29 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014


“Your getting a little personal Tom but ok i confess, I Love GT!”

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gtcaryd at7:29 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014


“Oh so i wake up spell something wrong and thats all you got to bring at me”

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gtcaryd at7:15 a.m. Jan. 29, 2014


"there probably UGA grads"

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Let’s see if we all can follow this, then shall we gtcaryd ?You don’t have to be educated at Georgie tek to be a Georgie tek diehard fan, Auburn beat UGA so you can razz us about that while we beat you at your house for the 7th time in a row, we’re disappointing losing 5 of 7 games against teams ranked for the season beating # 4 and # 14 while you lost 6 games 5 of whom were not ranked for the season and beat # 23 Duke who was not ranked at game time and did not have their Starting QB Anthony Boone who was injured the week before against Memphis, despite admitting that you don’t have to be educated to post on the AJ-C about football you run in here to tell UGA fans not Georgie tek fans how stupid the football players are at UGA and how Georgie tek football players can actually read and write despite the fact you admit you can do neither, but that you nonetheless can get one over on those who are talking about your subject football telling us about some Mark Richt recruit who got a scholarship offer from Middle Tennessee State Mark Richt who has beat you 12 of 13 games he’s been our coach recruiting the # 8 recruiting class on the average all 14 years with the # 5 best number of wins his 13 seasons because he stole the recruit from Middle Tennessee State whom just in 2012 at Bobby Dodd Stadium, named for a college drop-out from University of Tennessee at Knoxville, Middle Tennessee State beat Georgie tek 2012 by 3 touchdowns and gtcaryd runs in here to make fun of Middle Tennessee State.


Now what is your relationship with Georgie tek since it obviously is not as a student, yet you run in here to proclaim your football players at Georgie tek can actually read and write unlike at UGA while on your best day, you could not pass the GED.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

Posted by gtcaryd at 7:43 a.m. Jan. 17, 2014

"TomAss please try to remember, and i understand your a UGA Alum so it might be touch and go for a while. You see our players can actually read and write"

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ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

There are years' worth of posts built-up which cause folks like you here to name call TheBuckeye, patriotdog.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

@At home in Larryville


You talk out your backside about that which you have no knowledge.  Salt would do no good in 28 degree weather because it gets pushed to outside the travel lanes.  Have you considered telling THAT to every city North of us, like Charlotte ?

PatJonesFama
PatJonesFama

@Baghead You keep thinking that. I don't want to have to move again from the madness. 

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@ThomasBrownHeck ThomAss i cant even spell GED, but i seem to have gotten the attention of a UGA/Princeton man. Look here Mr. Science, you cant comment on any blog about anything without spewing hate and lies about my Jackets. Seems to me you can dish it out, but cant take it. ThomAss would you like to call a 24 hr. cease fire.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

@gtcaryd You are welcome to a 24-hour cease fire, just as soon as you name these lies about Georgie tek I posted and what your relationship is with Georgie tek you are so obsessed about that you feel that you need to personally attack me only in every single post you ever write here because I dare to sit here and research your school to expose you as a person who has no relationship with Georgie tek.  You have never pointed out any of these lies you now bring up about Georgie tek requiring my easy to get edit. I make personal attack on your lack of education because you have made a concerted effort here to brag about your football players at Georgie tek being able to read and write while stating our football players at UGA cannot.  Rich considering now with this post, that this is now three (3) times you have admitted you are not erudite, and not educated.  Look gtcaryd, I do not mind you rooting for Georgie tek, and I certainly do not belittle those who have not had the opportunity afforded me with proverbial silver spoon in my mouth since birth here.  Ok ?  I am a man born here who was raised on the wrong side of the tracks because my Dad Major USMC, and I will defend myself damn it.  If you thought otherwise, you know now.   Trust me, I know how to take it.  But, you sir, have failed to answer direct questions while you spew hatred against UGA and against me personally, while failing to reply to the obvious questions in reply. Mom said, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the Kitchen.  Dad said, don't dish it out unless you can take it.  I learned both at an early age, and you still have not sir.  If you had, you would not offer up a truce for 24 hours after I put up your summary right here you reply to and for the 1st time, put it there for you to recognize whom it is you are sir.  Damn it, there is not one word you did not write you now reply to.  And, no sir, it's not misspelled words; it's a total lack of education - yet, THIS what you spend your days in here talking about, is it not gtcaryd ?  That our football players cannot read and write and your football players can ?  That I am not educated, did not attend UGA, was not accepted to Princeton and Cornell - the only 3 I applied to.  You are welcome to whine that you cannot stand the heat, that you sit there dishing it out as you have daily now to me and to UGA and cannot take it in retort as I only now have in this one post you now reply to of a summary of your posts for all to see how poorly educated you actually are talking about education and Georgie tek football players being able to read and write while stating UGA players cannot all the while admitting you cannot, whining you want a 24-hour truce because you cannot stand the heat in reply because you cannot take it while you dish it out.


I am more than willing to put behind us both every word ever gtcaryd; but I do now require in consideration of same that you detail your relationship to Georgie tek and name the lies about Georgie tek I posted, instead of sitting there stewing over it as you have obviously.  Go ahead.  Get it out in the open.  You will find I am a wonderful guy.  Southerner.  Georgia boy.  You see gtcaryd ?  You might find it difficult to put it behind you yourself, because by God Above, I can Dish it Out when dished out to.  Can't I gtcaryd, sir ?  It is the corollary to don' dish it out if you cannot take it.  If you cannot take it, gtcaryd, do not dish it out.


I have found through my many years that this is the only way to get through to those who think their own does not stink to high heaven.  I do have a way with words.  It is how I make my living.  And, this is my hobby, UGA football and UGA women's basketball, and UGA in general.  Therefore, on the AJ-C in over 37 years posting here on AccessAtlanta starting with a PC I built myself, I have learned to ferret out Georgie tek fans and to research and produce mind boggling proven facts about Georgie tek that are not in keeping with normally typed posts by Georgie tek fans about their # 36 U.S. News and World Report best college 2014.  UGA is # 60.


Now, what about this truce and 24 hours or whatever length you desire gtcaryd ?

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