Posted: 9:52 am Friday, January 24th, 2014

No Braves logo for Maddux? No big deal 

By Mark Bradley

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Here’s a generic cap. Is that so awful? (Kathy Willens/AP)

Greg Maddux worked 11 seasons for the Atlanta Braves. Counting his minor-league time, he worked 12 seasons for the Chicago Cubs, the team that drafted him. He has agreed with the Hall of Fame’s suggestion that he not have a team logo on his Cooperstown plaque. As much as we Atlantans might hate this, it’s the right choice.

We like to believe that ballplayers belong to us forever, but they don’t really. Hank Aaron ended his career as a Milwaukee Brewer. Dale Murphy got traded to Philadelphia. Tom Glavine signed with the hated Mets as a free agent. John Smoltz was drafted by the Tigers and did a final stint with the Red Sox. Chipper Jones was the exception — he worked for no team other than the Braves — but he’s the exception that proves the rule: The realm of pro sports is a transient place.

The Hall of Fame allows inductees to finesse the issue by choosing not to choose. Tony La Russa, who managed not just the Cardinals and the A’s but also the White Sox, will likewise logo-less, and that makes sense, too. Why aggravate people if there’s a way around it?

Braves fans will say, correctly, that the best years of Maddux’s career were spent here. Maddux concedes the point. But he came up as a Cub, won his first Cy Young as a Cub and went back to the Cubs when his days as a Brave were done. (He would also do brief turns as a Dodger and a Padre.) For him and the Hall, it was a close call. So they made no call, which was the smart call.

Some Braves fans are outraged, but we live in a world where outrage isn’t exactly in short supply. Those folks will find something else to make them mad soon enough. In the meantime, let’s try a bit of perspective. It’s a logo. On a plaque. On a wall of a building in Cooperstown, N.Y. If that makes you regard Greg Maddux as a traitor to the cause (whatever that cause might be), you need to get out of the house more often.

43 comments
DawgDadII
DawgDadII

Come on, Mark, how long are you going to rub this in our faces?

smdubro
smdubro

If any thing.....I thought it would be the Cubs.  12 years, his first Cy Young.  I remember when he came up as a Cub.  He did the right thing for him.

Rounder
Rounder

Sorry to belate to this party. Good for Maddux getting into th HOF.  I enjoyed his time in Atlanta saw practically every outing he made either on TV or in person. In the big picture he can do whatever h wants with his induction but I can do whatever I want with my opinon. If Atlanta and all the playoffs and the one world series is weighed against his tenure in Chicago it is really baffling.  As I said it's ok if that's what he wants. But it also ok for me to feel that number should come down with the Atlanta greats that had their numbers retired. He's no different IMO from a Gary Sheffield or a Fred McGriff. Great players but not worth of a number retired. A plaque next to he Waffle House that says Thank you for you contribution is all I need to him.  

cloudodust
cloudodust

Maddux's logo ought to read 'WJ', Working Joe. He played the game his way, let him enter The Hall his way. Attaching a logo to a plague is for pleasing the critical masses. I'll remember him for his time spent here in Atlanta. Same goes for Glavine, Smoltz, Avery etc. Let it ride...Now, back to real world stuff...

Quicherbichin
Quicherbichin

Considering the fact that the Deranged Chicken has nothing in his head, he should have "Imbecile" printed on any cap he wears.

RangeRover
RangeRover

Considering the 50 pounds he's put on since he took off the uniform I'd say he should have "Golden Corral" imprinted on his cap. 

THEBITTERTRUTH
THEBITTERTRUTH

It is a non-issue. Maddux played for several teams to get the 300+ wins and he did the diplomatic thing. Let it go.

whoknowz
whoknowz

Quite the sanctimonious lecture and frankly we don't deserve it. He has every right to feel as he does, but so do we. It feels more like disrespect than betrayal. Nice of him to put up with being paid by the Braves and given the opportunity to showcase his awesome talent till he could get back to the place he obviously loves. I think therein lies the rub. Right or wrong, his comments feel like a love letter to Chicago and a thank you note to Atlanta. This may have been just a job to him but he was a part of an era in this city that made people passionate about the team. They made us believe, hope, dream. So pardon us while we adjust our perception and accept that the cool guy doesn't really want to be seen with us.

TreeRollins
TreeRollins

I'd be embarrassed to embrace the Braves also Greg -especially after the BJ and Uggla debacles!

EdStone28
EdStone28

I can't blame the guy. After all, the Braves did throw him to the curb like they have historically done with their star players. True Braves fans shouldn't concern themselves with this. They should be protesting Tom Glavine going IN as a Brave.

Wilbo
Wilbo

Who can blame the guy? If I went to into the HOF, there's no way in the world I'd have my image besmirched w the logo of the most inept, incompetent, cowardly organization EVER to participate in MLB postseason baseball. Not that he was all that much better, posting a losing record as a postseason pitcher w the Atlanta Braves. That dude is gone, forget about him and all his October choking buddies. Way, way, way past time to build a team character and personality that doesn't beget choking like a sick dog come October. Run that somnambulistic dope Cox clone out of the dugout, get rid of the little preening peacock Shuerholtz, and Frank Wren-- flush 'em out like a backed up sewage system and get some people in Atlanta with a will to win. "Win instead of grin" should be the new mantra of the Atlanta Braves, and screw people like Sweet Little Whispering Greggie.


BubbaDee
BubbaDee

GTBee...How dare you defile Mr. Bradley's column with the use of "irregardless"...it's not a word. BTW Maddux and others weren't defined by the name on their Uni... But the number of commas on their pay checks...

GTBee
GTBee

Maddux was and will always be my favorite Brave - irregardless of any logo.

PaulinNH
PaulinNH

Makes sense for Maddux but the HoF doesn't want to go too far with this idea.

I think the folks up here in New England would like to see the NY taken off Babe Ruth's plaque

DNorth
DNorth

So what?  The plaque will STILL say "Atlanta Braves NL '93-'03" and will talk about his performances as a Brave !!  Most of what it will show will be things he achieved as a Brave, which is all we as fans ought to expect.  Jeez, what a ridiculous thing to get worked up about.

Rick_C
Rick_C

I completely agree Mark.  Love the last paragraph.  I think he should go in as a Brave but it really shouldn't be a big deal.

DawgDadII
DawgDadII

Disagree and disagree, as stated in another blog. Mark, I've been a fan of MLB for 50+ years. Your little lecture in the closing paragraph just landed you in Jay Bookman territory in terms of my respect for your positions.

Ted_Striker
Ted_Striker

Agree and agree, as stated in another blog. 

savannahgator5220
savannahgator5220

This is no big deal. Breves fans need to save their anger for Liberty Media. They along with the horrible cable television deal are slowly bleeding the Braves dry.

BehindEnemyLines
BehindEnemyLines

This really smacks of "trolling for hits/comments".   

fleshtuxedo
fleshtuxedo

Come on Bradley! Your "hey dude, who cares" article is lame. Maddux's decision was shocking to both sets of fans. Just check the Chicago Tribune. Cubs fans are just as shocked as we are. The guy pitched in countless big ballgames for the bravos compared to what? A half dozen for the cubbies? It's a joke and should be reported as such. I love Maddux and he's no traitor, but his decision is disapointing to say the least. Calling it the "right choice" is laughable, but I suspect that you are just looking for clicks. I fart in your general direction.

Savdon
Savdon

People are outraged that Maddux chose no logo?  Wow. 

Rickster_
Rickster_

One thing about Maddux's stats with the Braves... he had a much better team surrounding him here than he did in Chicago. His stats would have been better in Chicago if he had the same team around him up there that he did here.

MoistDawg
MoistDawg

I almost threw up when I read this. he didnt become great til he got here. how many rings did he get in chicago? none. I hope the braves formally protest this.

Flacons_go_2-14
Flacons_go_2-14

Maddox is a trader 4 turnin his back on the Barves and Antlanta. 

332-206
332-206

It was what he became as a Cub that the Braves wanted him. His call, and good for him.

supsalemgr
supsalemgr

I agree with Phil. The Cubs gave him his start and he was a stellar pitcher for them. The Braves were just fortunate to have him as they did. I think it was a classy choice.

DirtyDawg
DirtyDawg

What the outrage seems to be based on is an apparent feeling that Maddux has no 'loyalty' for the Braves. This for a team that has abandoned loyalty for the City of Atlanta...for just money. At least Maddux's decision was based on not wishing to 'diss' one set of fans in order to pacify another. Now that's being loyal.

jeffreyd
jeffreyd

Isn't the Hall of Fame based on your career accomplishments? A majority of his career success was with the Braves.


Wins: 194 (55%) with the Braves, 133 (37%) with the Cubs

ERA: 2.63 with the Braves, 3.61 with the Cubs

Cy Youngs: 3 with the Braves, 1 with the Cubs

World Series: 1 with the Braves, 0 with the Cubs

Playoff Appearances: 10 with the Braves, 1 with the Cubs


And you don't factor in minor league years to Hall of Fame considerations. He spent 11 years with the Braves, 10 with the Cubs.


MikeSand
MikeSand

@MoistDawg How much would it take to just make you go away? I am sure almost all of the other bloggers/readers would chip in too.

DIT
DIT

@Joe-T - What kind of trading did he do? OH, you meant TRAITOR...... What a TOOL!

Savdon
Savdon

@Joe-TPlease get back to deep frying fish in Nebraska.

stripesofzebra
stripesofzebra

@DirtyDawg The city of Atlanta put all of their eggs in the Falcons basket and got burned.  Money is key in business, which professional baseball is.  And don't forget that the city has still not developed around Turner Field.

Quicherbichin
Quicherbichin

@HRPuff@Joe-T He traded Joe T's brain with the Deranged Chicken's... no noticeable improvement was noted in either case, but he figured that both brains had never been used, so it was worth a shot.

DirtyDawg
DirtyDawg

The Braves are/were being pressured by Liberty Media to do something dramatic to enhance the appraised value of the team so that they can unload it at the absolute high. The 'offer' they made to the City was - give us the stadium and all the revenues generated by it (including parking) plus the City spend another $200 million developing the surrounding area when they (Braves) knew it would have to come from City's budget which it couldn't afford. In other words, they made em an offer they knew they'd have to refuse. Point being, whatever 'loyalty' fans of the Braves may have had previously, with this move those same Braves haves said to the City's residents, we don't care about you any longer (and apparently neither does Cobb County's officials that doesn't want to make it easy for Atlantans to get to the new stadium if it also means 'those people' would be able to get into Bobby more easily as well.) so stuff it.

Again, Maddux made the right decision.